﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>VC Fodder Forums / Capital Raising / The World of Fodder  / Is this nuts....or is it just me? / Latest Posts</title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.3</generator><description>VC Fodder Forums</description><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/</link><webMaster>admin@vcfodder.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:34:03 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: Is this nuts....or is it just me?</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic1099-84-1.aspx</link><description>13 views and no posted replies.....hmmmm.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any opinions??</description><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:35:09 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>cdmotor</dc:creator></item><item><title>Is this nuts....or is it just me?</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic1099-84-1.aspx</link><description>Okay...let me try to describe what is going on here, as 2 of my friends are debating this scenario with me. One of them has been a reasonably successful upscale home builder in the US for over 20 years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They have a preferential position on the acquisition of some land in the Caribbean (DR). This is due to a multi year relationship with the landowner. Suffice to say, they could buy in to a piece of land at 20-30% less than current market value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They are looking to develop and build a very high quality townhome and private villa community with a golf course. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regardless, other than the relationship with the landowner, they have no money. One of them has worked for the last year or so (and probably spent $100K or so) putting together a master plan, meeting with 5-star architects, engineers, water treatment people, real estate sales and marketing companies, etc. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Total project expense is projected at $325-350 million.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Total project income is projected at $450 million.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have seen the numbers, and agree with these estimates. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Problem is....they need about $30-40 million to get started. Infrastructure, excavation, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here's the debate....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* my opinion is that they are kidding themselves to think they can raise that type of money, with none of their own invested.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* they feel that since they have a complete presentation, including financial projections and a preferential position on the land, that they will be able to borrow the money from "somewhere". Either a bank loan "guaranteed" by a "backer", or from a "hard money" lender(s). Obviously, they are willing to repay the note inside of 4-5 years, with interest (10% ?)PLUS 30% of the net ($35 million?) to the backer. According to them, they have a "committment" from a NYC hedge fund to do the deal....but no meetings or money has materialized yet (it's been a month).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I say "BS". What do you say?</description><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:23:08 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>cdmotor</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>