﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>VC Fodder Forums / The World of Fodder / Entrepreneurship a la Fodder  / Business Plan for Web2.0 company / Latest Posts</title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.3</generator><description>VC Fodder Forums</description><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/</link><webMaster>admin@vcfodder.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:01:24 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>What is 'Feature Creek?"</description><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:48:17 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>This is great information.  Thanks. I'm trying to create a business plan for an Internet-TV show that has an exclusive online community as well.  It breeds many ad opportunities and many anchillary opportunities.&lt;br&gt;This is helpful. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;M-A</description><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:47:34 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ben Rowland (8/8/2006)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;hr noshade size="1" class="hr"&gt;It's good advice. So many people start off with a general idea -- but without any specifics. The problem with that is that you are constantly changing gears as you get new ideas. A business plan or at least &lt;EM&gt;something&lt;/EM&gt; written down forces you to commit to something. Be flexible with your business plan as you gain new information about your industry, target market, etc., but stay focused.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Make a plan, work the plan. Make a plan, work the plan. Make a plan, work the plan. Make a plan, work the plan. Make a plan, work the plan.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Make = Innovate&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Work = Execute&lt;/STRONG&gt;</description><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:00:06 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Magonaga</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ben Rowland (4/3/2006)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;hr noshade size="1" class="hr"&gt;Also check out this article. &lt;A href="http://www.slate.com/id/2138951/"&gt;Web 2.0: The new Internet "boom" doesn't live up to its name&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;P&gt;It sheds some light on what exactly Web 2.0 is (gee, surprise, it's hard to define) and touches on an investor's perspective.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does everyone feel about this? I realize there are some cool Web 2.0 properties out there, but I am seeing so many "it's MySpace, just in a different industry" deals out there that I'm instantly sceptical and dismissive when I hear "MySpace" or "Web 2.0."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ben&lt;/div&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I'm finding is that I do the same. I hear "Web 2.0" and I think "you will buzzword, buzzword, your buzzword into buzzworded profitability." Usually paired with words like "massive IPO".</description><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:57:56 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Magonaga</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ben Rowland (3/28/2006)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;hr noshade size="1" class="hr"&gt;This is a really interesting question.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I think a lot of business plans make a mistake by assuming they can grab a certain percentage of a massive market. Then, all they have to do is scale it. If you can get 1% of a $10B market, why not 2%? Or 5%? And so on.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;It just isn't that simple, and a sophisticated investor will see through that.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Ben&lt;/div&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is really important. I'd add that if you are going to claim X% of Y market, you had better demonstrate how you know X% will buy; how you plan to market to that X%; and how you plan to grab the tiger by the toe in the first place. That X% doesn't just leap into your sales pipeline, nor do pipelines automatically fill. How you physically plan to get the first Z% of that overall X%, and leverage it into the full X%, is super important.</description><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:52:41 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Magonaga</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>Hey, has anyone out there seen NetVibes? I'm not sure of their business model, but that is one amazing site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I even wrote a little Ajax RSS photo viewer for it as a sort of experiment:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://eco.netvibes.com/modules/7968/photo-viewer" target=_"blank" class="SmlLinks"&gt;http://eco.netvibes.com/modules/7968/photo-viewer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been pretty impressed with the developer tools they provide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ben</description><pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:53:56 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>Well, this post might help shed some light on the pesky Web 2.0 valuation question.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/22/wow-grouper-sells-for-65-million/"&gt;http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/22/wow-grouper-sells-for-65-million/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;However, the Grouper acquisition price is out of whack when compared to other recent video acquisitions. US Comscore data says Grouper had about 542,000 unique visitors in July 2006, compared to YouTube’s 16 million. Viacom’s recent acquisitions of iFilm (December 2005, 3.3 million U.S. uniques) and Atom/Shockwave (August 2006, 1.3 million U.S. uniques) for $50 million and $200 million, respectively suggest a per-unique-visitor valuation of $15-$20. Grouper’s per-unique-visitor valuation, by comparision, is roughly $70 - $120, depending on whether you look at June or July 2006 data.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;It’s hard to use Comscore data for meaningful analysis as it doesn’t necessarily reflect total videos uploaded or viewed, and doesn’t reflect videos embedded on third party sites. I also only have U.S. Comscore data. However, noting those issues, the $65 million valuation on Grouper suggests a YouTube valuation of around $2 billion.&lt;/div&gt;</description><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:58:06 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>It's good advice. So many people start off with a general idea -- but without any specifics. The problem with that is that you are constantly changing gears as you get new ideas. A business plan or at least &lt;EM&gt;something&lt;/EM&gt; written down forces you to commit to something. Be flexible with your business plan as you gain new information about your industry, target market, etc., but stay focused.</description><pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:37:05 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A business plan is a good first step. It is 100 times harder to start any business without a business plan, compared to having a good one in place before starting. I regularly advise clients and clients to be to begin by writing up a business plan before spending any money or investing anything in a business. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Look at it this way. A lender will want to see that plan before lending you money. A building owner will want to see it before agreeing to lease facilities to make your business happen. Any seasoned investor will want to review it before investing with you. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am a commercial agent that can assist anyone starting a business or investing in a commercial venture anywhere in the USA. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your investment has to include commercial property of some kind, even if it is a business, a new startup idea, or other. There are many ways to passively or actively invest in commercial properties of all kinds.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am also available to help your organization move into bigger space, move into smaller space, expand, or sell our existing facilities anywhere in the USA  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My network of 4000 commercial agents that I work with at Coldwell Banker Commercial stretches all across the USA. I specialize in helping people find a good commercial agent that can assist them in reaching their goal, no matter what it is. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Make sure that if you do sell any commercial or investment property, that you exchange it, instead of just selling it. This will save you about 25% of your investment gain in taxes. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Feel free to check out my website. It has articles, RSS feeds, and news as well as reports about the latest cutting edge developments in commercial real estate all across the USA. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.ericstraatsma.com/"&gt;www.ericstraatsma.com&lt;/A&gt;</description><pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:07:02 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>wealthconsultant</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>...and here's a &lt;A href="http://web2.wsj2.com/"&gt;rebuttal&lt;/A&gt; of the Slate article for good measure!</description><pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:22:19 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>There are a ton of social networking sites out there; and some vertical specialization is good. I do think there are to many "me too" companies out there thought.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is a killer app when you add it to a vertical portal though. One stop shopping for you specified tastes. Give me a baking site with recipes and a specialized search engine, some chat rooms and a way to connect with other chefs and you have a golden ticket. It's just hard to do community "right".</description><pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:19:42 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BRodda</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>Also check out this article. &lt;A href="http://www.slate.com/id/2138951/"&gt;Web 2.0: The new Internet "boom" doesn't live up to its name&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It sheds some light on what exactly Web 2.0 is (gee, surprise, it's hard to define) and touches on an investor's perspective.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does everyone feel about this? I realize there are some cool Web 2.0 properties out there, but I am seeing so many "it's MySpace, just in a different industry" deals out there that I'm instantly sceptical and dismissive when I hear "MySpace" or "Web 2.0."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ben</description><pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:12:16 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;Here I want to keep the site ad free to some extent atleast during first year of operations till the product stabilizes. As it is web2.0, we do not charge user for the usage. It is the network and kb we build that matters.  On the similar thread, there was talk about $30 / per user valuation. Can I just talk about the network as value in the business plan?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have not seen the business plans for major Web2 deals, but I expect there are a couple ways you could approach this that would make sense to potential investors.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First, consider charging for the service. If you keep the service free for the first yeat at get 1MM users signed up, and then put a fee structure in place, you just need a user conversion percentage. If you charge $10 per year and 10% switch to paid, that is $1MM in revenue. Ryze took this route -- it's free to join, but account upgrades get you more features. The Motley Fool is a free content site, but if you want to participate, you have to join their forums.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second, advertising. If you have 1MM users who produce 100MM ad impressions per year, and you get a 1% CTR, that's 1MM clicks. At an average of $0.25 per click, that is $250K.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.calacanis.com/2005/11/29/ok-lets-stop-the-bubble-machine-right-now/"&gt;This post&lt;/A&gt; kind of puts this "$30 per user" stuff in perspective.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ben</description><pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:46:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>I do agree to that. Here I want to keep the site ad free to some extent atleast during first year of operations till the product stabilizes. As it is web2.0, we do not charge user for the usage. It is the network and kb we build that matters.  On the similar thread, there was talk about $30 / per user valuation. Can I just talk about the network as value in the business plan?</description><pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:40:13 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Pontifex</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>This is a really interesting question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think a lot of business plans make a mistake by assuming they can grab a certain percentage of a massive market. Then, all they have to do is scale it. If you can get 1% of a $10B market, why not 2%? Or 5%? And so on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It just isn't that simple, and a sophisticated investor will see through that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ben</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:18:40 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ben Rowland</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>The big thing in any business plan is to show how you are going to make money. If all you can show is outflow without a way to surpass that in cash inflow your going to have a big problem. If your a web 2.0 website then you should detail the amount of ad inventory (how much money you would make if you sold every ad slot on your site), the expected sale rate (we expect of sell 5% of our ad inventory the first year and increases that by 3% each additional year), the price structure (including allowable discounts) and subscription fees if you have any.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The big thing about banner ad revenue and CPC (AdWords and such) is that it is directly tied to traffic. So if you are trying to calculate the total inventory on a standard RoS (Run of Site) sales model you will have to multiply your CPM by the number of PAGE VIEWS (Not visitors) for each page visited. That means if you have a CPM of $10 and you have 3 ad slots per page and you have 1000 visitors a day with an average page view of 6 pages per visit you will end up with a total DAILY revenue of $180. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then you just need to show that you can scale for 1000 users per day to 10,000 users per day adn you have a decent revenue stream of $1,800 or $65,700 per year. Not venture worthy but still a nice lifestyle business. If you want to be venture worthy you need to show how you are goign to get to 100,000 vistiors per day, increase the number of page views or show how you can justify a higher CPM. Hopefully all three.&lt;img align="absmiddle" src="http://forums.vcfodder.com/Skins/Classic/Images/EmotIcons/Wink.gif" border="0" title="Wink"&gt;</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:26:30 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BRodda</dc:creator></item><item><title>Business Plan for Web2.0 company</title><link>http://forums.vcfodder.com/Topic584-13-1.aspx</link><description>How should one go about writing a business plan for a web2.0 company where we only show outflow of money and no inflow. In financial section, we show only costs incurred. How should one convince an Angel investor or Venture capital on the value created by network?</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:01:57 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Pontifex</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>