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Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/23/2006 4:16:49 PM Posts: 16, Visits: 31 |
| | I have been "doing" ideas for as long as I can remember and have often fallen into the trap of thinking I was the best man to realize them as they came along. I´m still as poor as the day I was born which tells you the success of it all. My post is not to try and raise funding at the promise of riches but more to tell of solutions that you could "do" instead of me even still though it is my work it will die with me without your help. For a long time I have been working on a solution to organic waste and how these are disposed of. Burning or burial has been the method for such waste that is not directly usable but we are comming to the point where such solutions are difficult to manage for numerous reasons among those cost and space. I have come up with a method that can plow through organic waste and when finished you are left with light powdery dust disposable or reusable directly as it is. This dust would have a reselling value of 2-3 $ a pound and among the customers would be the fishfarming industry. The processes are 4-7 fold and the option to test each process is wide open so no waste content is hidden from environmental scruitiny if someone would feel there is a need for such. In practical terms we have such problems linked to every slaughterhouse facility in the world and the values of disposed waste comming from these facilities are great each week of the year. Values that cost you and other consumers a "pretty penny" needlessly if my method would be applied. So if you are into environmental issues and need or want to make a difference and make money doing it why not introduce this solution in your community. There is a great need and the money is good and..... My method is sound. I´ll gladly be your parner. Let us dispute. |
| | | | Fodder Emeritus
         
Group: Moderators Last Login: 1/28/2008 9:05:38 PM Posts: 101, Visits: 186 |
| | Sounds like a microbial solution you have in mind. Is that correct? There's really nothing to dispute: If you have a solution, and if there's a market for your solution...or more precisely, if you have the ability to market this solution and convince customers to us it instead of alternatives, then you have a chance. Many VC firms have recently discovered so-called "green investments," so if you have a solution, if you can start a company without venture capital, there are definitely VC firms that you'll be able to approach when you're looking for expansion capital...and once you have proof of concept. Slaughterhouses (and any food processing plant), would be natural marketing targets for your product. These facilities often run afoul of local governments due to the amount of raw material they dump into the sewer lines. I'd recommend selling to for-profit businesses as opposed to municipalities. Government entities are extremely difficult to sell to. I guess if you're still jonesing for a dispute, you can try to convince me driving a Prius makes economic sense
Dr. VC _____________________________________________________________________________________ Cynicism is not an end, but a means to reach objectivity. |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/13/2006 2:23:09 PM Posts: 5, Visits: 10 |
| | If you haven't read any of Michael Porter on Competitive Strategy, its worth the time and energy to plow through. Fundamentally, the issue of any entrepreneurial idea is whether the concept has a sustainable competitive advantage in the marketplace, i.e., something that is distinctive and cannot be easily replicated or has barriers to entry. Good ideas are only good if someone is willing to pay for them, and if they can be copied easily, then they are only good for so long. You also should consider farms, and particularly mushroom and earthworm farms for your product. As it is, these farms consume huge quantities of organic waste. I will pass your post along to a friend who is with an "green environment" organisation. They may have an interest. |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/23/2006 4:16:49 PM Posts: 16, Visits: 31 |
| Thanks Dr. VC for your encuragements. Unlike most entrepren. I have come past the eagerness to "shine" with my brainchild. It is a solution to a vaste problem that plagues most western societies and the solutions that are used are both costly and second or third to best solutions leaving no value at the proces end.Burning cost many more calories then it delivers and burial leaves many detailes with uncertainty. The solution I carry has incorporated methods that opens up the whoe process to testing from a-z. It can return value even from disposal of bones.
It would be most natural to take the next steps to make this all come too by starting up som entity shield and take the plunge into running this in a company. I choose not to. I have given it what I can easily give and that is time and investments that I can muster on my own but that is as far as I will go. In stead I offer who ever to talks that has the need to get rid of waste of this kind. What these talks can lead to does not much matter beiond my need to refinace my time and effort. Those that are most likely to need this are the slaughterhouses and the fish industry and with the onslaught of a possible H5N1 epidemic the problems a cadaverdisposal can become a grand problem. Keeping this in mind I hope that this claime I state will be enough to avake interest and I will not need to invest non excistent funding in starting a firm for commerce. I aggree that governmental environment is much more talk then action and the need for this solution is with the actors of the food market I put my trust in them seeing the need to economically get rid of the waste with a profit instead of a loss as is the present state. Regarding the Prius the only economic solution is talking to dad and ask him to pay for the gas. That is good sence since I trust you are not interested in switching to a bike har har har  Nonni |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/23/2006 4:16:49 PM Posts: 16, Visits: 31 |
| | Hi EhNonymus and thanks for the input. I haven´t read these scripts you mention but basically I disagree with some parts of your statement. I think that all an idea needs to contain is to have " a sustainable advantage " weather or not it is bound in competiveness or economics. The fundamentals for the entrepreneur is to better life mindless to economics but since our world is based on economics in modern time we all tend to look at the subject from an economical point of view. With this idea I have put forward I point out the solution we use presently is costly, ill advised and environmentall wrong leaving only costs as summarium. It is costly not only to the companies involved but also to environments and nature. The aspect of involving nature in the equation is not a welcome factor in most cases and very seldom involves other then a cost increasing baggage, unwelcome as such. This is not the case with my idea and if that would be the only measurement of its value it should suffice as value enough if sense would be the judge. But... As you, so rightfully, point out. The economics are of most essence here as in other matters of entrepreneurship. If I have let down eight years in this idea and each slaughterhouse would pay me 100$ for this concept as one time payment I´d be content but they would save hundred fold this amount each year from now on and we would all be content. I have a hard time seeing them not beeing willing to let out such a small sum of money. The solution is not of a kind that should be kept a secret due to competiveness I, perhaps wrongly, think. Unfortunately for me most companies wouldn´t honor this though. They´d hear of the solution and use it and never give me another thought. Regarding farms, within practises of using waste in the productivity, these only scrape the surface of what is needed to be done. Each animal put down leaves us with 30-40 % of its weight as potential waste and in USA alone I´d gather millions of tons are burnt or buried each year with only tens of thosands are reused in ecological farming. Fishing farming in it´s many forms could on the other hand swallow most of this dust my practice would produce. Another factor many of us are not aware of is the need to be able to deal with bacterial and viral hazards of waste and my method includes solution to both. Getting rid of priones which are the prime cause for restrictions to reuse animal waste as animal feed. Thanks for your input and for the willingness to lend me a hand. Appreciated. regards Nonni |
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Group: Administrators Last Login: 3/4/2008 5:30:47 PM Posts: 179, Visits: 845 |
| | Nonni- Okay, so what is this brilliant idea? We're all ears. If you are really after giving this idea to all of humanity, why not start by posting details to it here? We're hardly experts in this field, but if it seems viable, you never know who might read it. To me, it sounds too good to be true, but I challenge you to prove otherwise. Ben |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/23/2006 4:16:49 PM Posts: 16, Visits: 31 |
| | Hi Ben How old are you ? Send me the 100$ and an address and I´ll send you the script I want you to sign and then the secret to "fire" will follow. Do we have an agreement ? Regards Nonni |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/23/2006 4:16:49 PM Posts: 16, Visits: 31 |
| Hi I´d like to thank those that have read my posts here and have shown a positive attitude to my trials. I choose not to continue with this forum further.Nonni |
| | | | KinderFodder
         
Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/16/2006 8:41:29 AM Posts: 13, Visits: 24 |
| Back to the original question in the topic, my simple response is no. A product is one thing, but packaging the product into a beautiful wrapper and selling it, marketing it, pricing it, converting the value of the product into words, and developing a plan around it is something else. I think a good entrepreneur is not only creative from the products perspective, but has good honed instincts on how to present it to the public, investors, or whoever your stakeholders are and selling it.
An example is if computers came with no casing, but just electronic wires and silicon that works, people would be less inclined to buy it then with the nice casing hiding all the innards. This is the same with cars. I think an idea is the same way. Packaging it nicely and able to sell it takes some level of talent, beyond just creating the wires or the engine of the product.
Manish
Manish M. Shah
President
AcceleWeb, Inc. |
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